Lacus Musianus Yet Again

Gabriel Bucelin identified the Bodensee, that is Lacus Venetus as Lacus Moesius which looks at least similar to Musianus making it a prime candidate for Jordanes’ Lacus Musianus (elsewhere Mursianus).

But, perhaps more importantly, he also delivered some interesting geographic notes on the Bodensee/south Swabia region. Here are some names of towns in the various the Catholic deaneries (or decanates) in the area. Some of these may not be Suavic. But that does not necessarily mean they are Teutonic either. Many may date to the Roman (and pre-Roman) period. Interestingly, some look Baltic or Old Prussian (or even Finnish or rather Finnic). To begin with Bucelin lists such names as these:

  • Elekow
  • Burgow
  • Tergenow
  • Tettnow
  • Ilaw (compare this with the Polish Iława (German Eylau) which was an Old Prussian town originally mentioned as Ylavia, Ylaw, and Ilow)
  • Rhynow
  • Eschentz
  • Hegnow
  • Windeck
  • Winida

Now, let’s break this down by deaneries.


Decanatus Stuelingen

  • Muchen [Mauchen]

Decanatus Waldshuett

  • Berouw

Decanatus Stockach

  • Zellin Madach

Decanatus Lindoviensis

  • Ober-Reitnow
  • Under-Reitnow
  • Liggnow
  • Betznow
  • Tannauvv
  • Laymnow


Decanatus Turingen

  • Illmansee (compare with Lake Ilmen whose name Vasmer derive from Finnic Ilmajärvi)

Decanatus Sancti Galli

  • Goslovv
  • Herisovv
  • Lustnovv
  • Hennow


Decanatus Wyl. in Turgovia

  • Kromnovv
  • Nesslauvv (!)
  • Unpinovv
  • Immolin

Decanatus Elgovv

  • Ellgovv
  • Kromnauvv ?
  • Ellsovv
  • Tennicka

Decanatus Winterthur

  • Kottbos (compare the Sorb Chóśebuz whose German name is Cottbus)

Decanatus Thuriensis

  • Ussnovv
  • Jannen

Decanatus Wetzicken

  • Wetziken (Baltic?)
  • Ustra
  • Ryssickon
  • Bubiskhen (Baltic? Suavic?)
  • Yllnovv
  • Gossovv
  • Seegreben ?


Decanatus Regensperg

  • Klingnovv
  • Tellickon
  • Wissiken
  • Lengnovv

Decanatus Bremgarttensis

  • Stelliken (Baltic? but also have the Vandal Stilicho and Uli Stielike, seemingly a German version of a name that otherwise appears only in Eastern Europe)
  • Kinnovv

Decanatus Mellingensis

  • VVindisch
  • Wolen

Decanatus Hochdorff

  • Berova

Decanatus Willisgovv

  • VVillisgovv
  • Brittnovv
  • Metznovv

Decanatus Lucernensis

  • Gessovv

Decanatus Arauvv

  • Kollickon
  • Winicken
  • Tullicken
  • Berovv
  • Kulin
  • Raittnovv


Decanatus Wynoviensis

  • Winovv

Decanatus Munsingensis

  • Signovv
  • Woreuu ?
  • Langnovv
  • Brienz ?

Decanatus Basileensis sive Wisenthaal

  • Tergernovv
  • VVittlickon
  • Ottlickon
  • VVitnovv
  • Tottnovv
  • VVarnovv


Decanatus Newvvenburgensis

  • Zinnicken
  • Liela
  • Bellicken

Decanatus Brysacensis

  • VVitnovv

Decanatus Fryburgensis

  • Siglovv
  • Lechen ?

Decanatus Rottvillanus

  • Rainhartsovv (owner was German)!

Decanatus Horb, sive Dornstetten

  • Hoppfovv ?

Decanatus Reuttligensis

  • Hannow

Decanatus Esslingen

  • Sirnovv

Decanatus Kirchaimensis

  • Dietizow

Decanatus Geppingensis

  • Durnow
  • Turndow

Decanatus Laubheimensis

  • Russin ad Kiltissin
  • Schwendi

Decanatus Wurzachensis

  • Winden

Decanatus Sulgoviensi

  • Cappell in Buchovv

Decanatus Ysnensis

  • Ysni

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July 26, 2020

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